Dylan Roberts: His Story On Overcoming The Stigma Behind Mental Health – Episode 126

 

LFL 126 | Depression And Suicidal Ideation

 

Mental health issues have become even more felt in this time of the pandemic. With social isolation along with the uncertainties surrounding us, we can’t help but feel even more depressed and anxious. Diving deep into this very timely topic, Patrick Veroneau brings to the show Dylan Roberts from the Coast Guard Academy to shed light on the silent struggles many are facing with their mental health. Dylan talks about his journey through depression and suicidal ideation and how he was able to overcome them. He shares some of the things we need to do to have those tough conversations and develop the coping skills to deal with some of the difficult moments that come and go. What is more, Dylan then lets us in on his upcoming book, where he gives a peek into his own struggles and reminds us that it is okay not to be okay. Everyone is fighting their own battles. What all of us can do is by being kind to one another because kindness has a ripple effect with no logical end.

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Dylan Roberts: His Story On Overcoming The Stigma Behind Mental Health

In this episode, I’m going to talk to an individual I’ve known for many years. His name is Dylan Roberts. He’s from the Coast Guard Academy. I brought him on here to talk about his journey through some things that I didn’t even know that he was going through in his life. It’s around depression and suicide. In this environment that we’re in now, I think it’s so important. Whether it’s adolescents or adults, what are some of the things that we need to do to be having those conversations and developing the coping skills to be able to deal with some difficult times? Whether you know somebody directly or you know somebody that knows somebody that is going through this, this impacts all of us. I hope you stick around and read this inspiring conversation that I was able to have with Dylan. Let’s get into it.

Dylan, I want to thank you for being on the show. This is one of those episodes that can never be told too many times. I know we’re going to talk about some difficult things around suicidal ideation, depression and a lot of emotions. It’s important because at the age that you’re going to tell your story that had happened and there were many kids that are going through struggles and so many parents are struggling as well with how to address this.

Thanks for having me. It’s a pleasure to be here and share my story in the hopes that it can help others. I’m a first-class cadet at the United States Coast Guard Academy. I’m a few months away from graduating and commissioning as an officer in the United States Coast Guard. I graduated from Cape Elizabeth High School in 2016. In my senior year, I applied to the United States Coast Guard Academy. I received a conditional appointment pending a medical review. In my senior year, I find out that I’m getting medically disqualified due to suicidal ideation, depression and mood disorder from an incident that happened when I was fourteen years old.

When I was fourteen, I tried to commit suicide. Fast forward, I spent a year of my life at Marion Military Institute in hopes to get a medical waiver to prove that the stigma of what happened when I was fourteen years old isn’t going to define me for the rest of my life. I applied to the Merchant Marine Academy. I got medically disqualified from there as well. While at Marion, I got a temporary medical waiver to the Coast Guard Academy. They said, “You’re accepted, but it’s not permanent. You still have to prove yourself.”In my freshman year, I did well. I made it through Swab Summer, which is the equivalent of boot camp. We had to commission physicals for graduation. I got a full medical waiver for commissioning so that I can commission into the United States Coast Guard Academy. It’s a journey of my perseverance and trying to overcome the stigma of mental health, suicidal ideation and depression from things that happened when I was a teenager and in high school.

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That journey from the time you graduated from high school and going through the Coast Guard Academy is a story in and of itself in terms of how you persevered and didn’t let this define who you are. I’ve had the pleasure of knowing Dylan for many years. Back to when you were in junior high. You are a good-looking kid, a great athlete and well-liked by other kids. When I now know what was going on for you as a sophomore in high school, it’s even more of an alert for all of us like, what might be going on for somebody on the outside and how we look in terms of what’s going in for this person on the inside can be so much different. You certainly are one of those. With that said, the question that I think about, and I’m sure many do, especially parents in terms of how can we help, is there anything that you would go back to and say, “This was something that started to create this sense of unhappiness to me?”

I lived a normal life growing up. I have two happy parents. The misconception is that maybe you’re looking for what’s wrong or assuming that something’s wrong, but it can be in normal life too. I had two older brothers. They’re both smart, incredible and two great parents. What happened to me is when I was in eighth grade, my brother graduated high school. I was watching graduation. That was the first moment when I realized that my brother wasn’t going to be there for me anymore and that he was going to be going off to college. It’s that instance and also, that following year, my grandmother passed away, and I was very close to my grandmother.

Within six months of each other, the change of my brother leaving from home and experiencing the first person in my life to pass away for when the first thirteen years of my life growing up feeling invincible, I didn’t know how to deal with the passing of my grandmother. It was my dad’s mom and he didn’t show a lot of emotions to it because my dad doesn’t show a lot of emotion. I didn’t know how to cope with it. I didn’t know how to go on without even having my other brother in day-to-day life because we were close with each other. I wasn’t accepting change. I was diagnosed with seasonal depression.

In the fall, when the days get shorter and living in Maine, I suffered hard. I started having these feelings and I didn’t know how to cope with them. I was trying to keep up and stay in my social group. I felt like I was getting burned out, like a firecracker. I’m feeling every decision I was making at fourteen years old was so significant, the pressure to do good academically and to perform athletically. In my freshman year, I tore my hip flexor halfway through the season and being like, “Why me? Why did that have to happen to me?” I wouldn’t say it’s one major thing, but it’s a lot of little micro things that build-up to all these feelings and not knowing how to deal with those.

When you look back on that now, were there points where you’re like, “I know something doesn’t feel right, but I’m going to push through this.” When was the point where you were like, “This is more than I can handle?”

The point when it was more than I could handle was when I was a sophomore when I decided that I was going to make the decision to take my life. Leading up to that, my parents and I hadn’t been getting along. They’ve been headbutting between each other, maybe at me too, being defiant against my parents. Them saying, “No, you can’t do something.” Me pushing and saying, “Why can’t I do it? What’s wrong?” I’m fourteen years old and then comparing, “My friends can do this. My friends can do that.” My parents are laying down the law and I remember one night, my mom and I got into an argument. I went to my bedroom and said, “I can’t take this anymore.”

That’s when I made the decision that I wanted to take my life. I was successful. My mom found me unconscious on the floor. I tried strangling myself. I tied knots around my neck. I tied multiples so that I knew I wouldn’t be able to on time before I went unconscious. My mom thankfully found me because I texted my older brother and said, “I love you. Thanks for all that you’ve done. Thanks for always being there for me.” He texted her, but she came into my room, and that’s where she found me laying on the floor and unconscious. She called 911 and I went to the hospital. At the hospital, they said that there’s a voluntary program and that I would be going to a psychiatric hospital at Spring Harbor.

It would be a great opportunity to help with my depression and coping skills. It’s a way to take myself out of the elements that I’ve been in. It was a two-week pause button. Most times, teenagers and adolescents are in there for a month or more. I was only in there for two weeks, but it allowed for time to pause, to stop and let me be myself. I didn’t have my phone when I was in there, so there were no distractions. I began to learn coping skills. I was with a bunch of other teenagers that felt the same way that I felt. We got to talk about it in round table discussions, then learn and develop coping skills and understand how to deal with it.

Is there one thing that, as you were in there, start to create a shift for you?

LFL 126 | Depression And Suicidal Ideation

Depression And Suicidal Ideation: You’re entitled to nothing, and things in life aren’t just going to be given to you.

 

A lot of it was the pressure that I was putting on myself. The relationship with my parents because I’d never told my parents that I’m depressed. I want to kill myself. I did it. It was learning to be able to have those conversations with my parents. That came in time because we went to family therapy. This was voluntary, but we knew that it was essential because it was what was going to help our family and help us because there are some communication gaps. Being the youngest of three, my mom and dad raised my older brother and middle brother, and then here’s me. They’re trying the same techniques that worked for my two older brothers, and it’s not working. Thinking of a DISC profile, we’re not all the same personality types and you can’t interact with us all the same way.

Understanding that for my parents and for me, feeling comfortable to have conversations with my parents because they’ve visited me twice while I was there. I got to talk to them. That was the first time that I’d seen emotions from them. That was something new for me because my parents didn’t show emotions. My mom told me growing up, “My job isn’t to be your friend. My job is to be your parent, to raise you right, and put you into this world as a gentleman.” That is an example of my mom and my dad isn’t one to show emotions. He is a career firefighter and he just got through things. He got over it. It was how it was. To start to see my parents showing that emotion and showing that compassion towards me, I felt that I could reciprocate it in the same way.

Your mom’s saying, “I’m not here to be your friend. I’m here to be your parent and to develop you.” As you look back at that moment, how did that come across to you? Being told, “I’m not your friend.”

It was hard because I wanted more from my mom to have a closer relationship but at the same time, I understood that when she did things, it was for my future. I can’t say that I understood that but looking back now, I understand the things that my mom did and what she said to me and the purpose behind it. One of the biggest lessons that they taught me was that you’re entitled to nothing and things in life aren’t just going to be given to you. That was something that I had a hard time with going to Cape Elizabeth, where my friends would be driving cars.

Their parents would buy them a bunch of things and I’d be like, “My friends have a car. Why can’t I have a car?” She would tell me to go out and work for it. I didn’t like that answer. At that time, I wish that maybe she would have been my friend, but I know that it would be hard too because that’s never been the side of my mom, even though I felt that growing up, I was more of a mama’s boy. She wanted to always lookout for the best interest of me, whether I knew it or not.

It is hard. As parents, we’re not given manuals on how to do this. She did the best she can. I can see that struggle of your mother wanting to say, “I’m not your friend. I’m here for a bigger purpose,” but not that she didn’t want to be close to you, but it’s the way it happened. As you look back on this, were there signs or signals that you were trying to give to your parents or those around you to say, “I’m struggling now.” If you look back on it now, where there are behaviors or things that you were doing that were ways for you to say, “I need help.”

Not really, and the reason why is because it’s hard to tell somebody that you’re struggling. Especially now, in this day and age, everybody wants to say, “I’m okay. I’m good. How are you?” “I’m good. You?” It’s that lack of depth. I don’t want to say that it was a problem back then, but people are only willing to go to the depth that you’re willing to go to. I didn’t want to be the one going to that depth first. As the youngest of two other brothers and having parents that were very stern, but I don’t want to say emotionless, but in that facet, I didn’t want to be the one to be like, “I’m struggling hard now.”

The only thing that I can think of is that I would become defiant with my parents and maybe short-tempered. I would storm off if I didn’t like something that they said and be like, “I can’t wait until I can get out of this house. I can’t wait until I can graduate.” Especially in writing my book, Keep Pushing, a lot of the book is talking about the reflection of how I wish I could have been closer to my parents and been more thankful for the lessons and the things that they did for me and the lessons that they gave to me.

The next piece of this, when we talk about not wanting to talk about some of these things, here you are in two weeks, you’re gone out of your normal mix. What was that like for you going back to school? I’m sure there were a lot of questions around like, “Dylan, where have you been? What’s going on?” How did you handle that?

It was hard. I remember the first day walking back into school and feeling like all eyes were on me. I’m feeling anxious. I’d never been one to feel anxiety. I felt so much anxiety and my heart pounding because I didn’t know what I was going to say when the first person asked me, “Where have you been? Where are you for the last two weeks?” Because I was on sports teams. I was a part of a lot of formal and informal activities and clubs at school, the excuse I came up with was I was on a hunting trip. I didn’t have phone service and I completely lied to my friends. Until November 2020, I didn’t tell any of my closest friends what had happened to me. I did not want to be a part of that stigma of mental health.

I did not want people to think of me differently or think that I was weak because I did that. I didn’t want to tell anyone. I didn’t tell any of my teachers. The only person that knew was my Health teacher and the social worker at school so that I could go back into classes because I’d missed two weeks of classes and they waived that for me. I told my Health teacher and one of the things that she told me, especially knowing my struggle because I had her in class. We talked about suicide and mental health, and I felt comfortable going to her. She told me, “This too shall pass, TTSP. Whenever you’re feeling down or having a hard day, remember this too shall pass. The school day doesn’t last forever.” I looked to go through that. Pretty soon, things blew over, and there was the next new thing to worry about or new drama. I went back into the rhythm of it and I felt like I didn’t have to tell anyone so I never did.

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Was that your mantra too, as one of your coping skills, is to be telling yourself, this too shall pass?

Yes. I still use it to this day because you’re not going to be stuck at that moment forever. There are going to be hard days since I was fourteen years old, but I knew that emotion or those feelings that I would feel aren’t going to last forever. Knowing that time keeps moving and time is the best healer for whatever you’re going through.

This isn’t this fairytale ending where all of a sudden you do two weeks, you are able to leave early from the hospital and you develop these coping skills. Life gets back in the way of this and my guess is you’ve developed additional coping skills or ways that have allowed you to continue to build on that. Is there anything in particular that you look at now and say, “This has been one of those building blocks for me?”

To go off the first point is that I was struggling again during baseball season. I got hit by a line drive right in the head, and I got knocked out with a concussion. I was out for my sophomore baseball season. One day I was struggling and one of the coping skills that I had was outreaching with my dad. I texted my dad and said, “I’m struggling.” He picked me up from school. We got ice cream and went to the beach. This was a big moment for me in terms of my dad being vulnerable to me, understanding and learning the value of vulnerability.

My dad told me he wasn’t sure what I was going through, but telling me this story that when he was nineteen years old, he was in a serious relationship with a girl and she ended up breaking his heart. He said, “I was upset for weeks. I didn’t even want to get out of bed. I didn’t want to go to work. I didn’t want to do anything. I thought she was the one but had she not broken my heart, I would have never met your mother. I wouldn’t have these three amazing boys. Whether I knew it or not at the time, it was the best thing that ever happened to me because I have you. I’m proud of you.” That was the first time that my dad was vulnerable with me because I had no idea of that story. That was him telling me he’s proud of me. I hugged him. I was like, “This is the most incredible feeling.”

I know for a fact that my dad would’ve been proud of me and other moments growing up, but for him to openly say, “I’m proud of you,” was more than I ever imagined. It’s just not words that came out of his mouth. That vulnerability taught me to be more vulnerable and how I mentioned before, people are only willing to go to the depth that you’re willing to go to. I wasn’t the one that had to go to that depth first that day. That was an incredible moment. Always taking time for myself in the day. I started doing yoga. I like to work out a lot and I value nutrition, food and making sure that I’m eating well and drinking a lot of water. Also, getting myself out of an environment when I can feel myself going downhill and I could be going to hang out with a friend or going to the gym and working out or going for a walk, but if I feel myself getting down on myself, getting out and changing scenery.

One of the other things you mentioned is you’ve written a book and that’s going to be a whole separate show. We talked about when that book finally launches and we’re going to speak specifically to that. Part of that must be writing. How did writing fit in for you in this process?

It’s tremendous because for me not to want to tell my story or share it with other people, I felt that writing was a way that I could get it off my chest without feeling like I needed to tell somebody, but getting out there. Even now, if I have a bad interaction with someone or I’m feeling frustrated, I’ll get out of the line with a piece of paper and write. I’m like, “I feel a lot better now.” I’ll crumple it up and throw it away because it’s a way for me to express myself, even if it’s just to myself. By doing that, it’s awesome. That’s why I started writing my book. I never plan on sharing it, but the reason I started writing it informally was because it helped me when I was drained or burnt out to write away and think of nothing else.

LFL 126 | Depression And Suicidal Ideation

Depression And Suicidal Ideation: That emotion or those feelings aren’t going to last forever. Know that time keeps moving and that it is the best healer for whatever you’re going through.

 

There was a process there. At what point did you say or did somebody else read one of them and say, “This would be something that other people should hear about?”

I had the privilege of being on a Fast Response Cutter out of Miami Beach and that’s for the Coast Guard. One of the crew members, he’s a father. He had a son that at my age, when I was 12 or 13, started feeling depressed and going through suicidal ideation. He told them that he thought about suicide. As a parent, he had no idea how to handle that and what to do. This was my first vulnerability for me to go to that depth first. I told him about my experience and how I overcame it and what I felt like I needed from my parents at that time. Hearing him talk about how important that was and be like, “I get it because I felt lost but to have you talk to me and to share your story.” He broke down.

It was incredible because it was a big realization of you want to be a parent and you want to be a good parent, but at some point in time, you got to hug your kid, your son or your daughter and tell them you’re proud of them with no repercussion. It’s like the report card. The report card saying, “When you get a bunch of A’s and B’s back, and there’s one C, and as parents, you tend to focus on that one C getting that up instead of praising them for all the A’s and B’s that they get.” The purpose of praise is to tell people what to do more of. Sometimes we do it backward, but telling him and seeing the impact that I had on him, made me feel comfortable to share one more time with one more person that was struggling.

We talk about vulnerability. This is the first opportunity you have to tell that story. I have to believe that you had to go outside of yourself to want to do that, but you saw somebody else going through that and you knew that needed to happen. You mentioned you didn’t tell your friends until November of 2020. That’s got to be a vulnerability as well. How did they take that?

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When I told my story for the first time, I was telling it, not for me. I was telling it for that shipmate, to help him as a father. Coming up seven years from when it happened and getting that medical waiver permanent so that I can commission, I decided that I was going to share a piece with my closest friends. I was talking to them and said, “When we were going through high school together, something happened to me and I never shared it.” I sent them the piece. Their first reaction was, “It is your obligation to share this with other people because you have no idea the impact that it’s going to have because I had no idea that you ever went through this, that you were ever suffering from depression or suicidal ideation.”

That one confidence boost to know that they’re not judging me. They don’t think any of me, but in terms of me being vulnerable and courageous, they’re standing up for me. I decided to share my story and published it. When I did, my heart was pounding when I press send. Shortly after I submitted it and published it, I got a response back from somebody that I didn’t know. She said, “Thank you for posting the words that I never had the courage to do so myself.” All of a sudden, my inbox is full of vulnerable stories that people had gone through. I didn’t know them, but going back to people are only willing to go to the depth that you’re willing to go to, when I went to that depth and made my story public, it had a ripple effect.

Every act of kindness has a ripple effect with no logical end. It’s the same thing with vulnerability. These people that have their stories kept inside for so long now have that first person that they feel comfortable to share it with. They didn’t even know me, but it was because I decided to share my story too. That’s when I decided that I needed to make all the writing that I’ve done over the last couple of years into a book. It was my obligation to share it just to help one person because it’s not about me anymore. It’s not my story. It’s in helping people understand that it’s okay not to be okay. A lot of people suffer. Fifty-four percent of people know someone that’s been impacted by suicide and 10% or more of people in the United States have thought about committing suicide.

The numbers are only increasing and growing. The amount of stories that I heard back in terms of a husband, a wife, a brother, a sister, son or daughter that committed suicide after reading my story, I’m at a loss for words because it’s heartbreaking. Fortunately, I’m on the other side of that and my mom saved me but to either bring assurance or where peace of somebody reading that story, but also for somebody that is struggling to know that it’s okay not to be okay and not to feel that you need to keep it to yourself, even though it took me seven years to tell my story.

You are telling your friends and everybody has their journey on this, but I would think it opens you up to all of those people that your friends are saying, “I wish I had known that I could’ve done something to help you out at that point.” There were many people around that care, but maybe don’t know what to do, but want to do something. The other piece I think about when you talked about vulnerability, going to that level, it sounds like that’s almost what your dad did too. He became vulnerable in a place that wasn’t his nature but to tell a story about it, he went to that level first to be able to make you more comfortable.

That’s why when a parent, mom, or dad can go to that level first with their son, then there’s going to be more communication. Let’s go there. One of the things growing up that there was a big shift in my high school years was the paradigm of trust. It started off as sticks and carrots with my mom and my dad. I didn’t necessarily care about pleasing them or making them happy. It was more so, I’m going to do what’s best for me or I’m going to go here because I want to go here or I’m going to go with my friends. There was that lack of trust. I want to say that at some point, I lost it because I knew that I couldn’t go hang out with my friends on a school night until 10:00 PM because I had a curfew. To lie really quick and tell my parents that I was coming home or that I was working on schoolwork when I wasn’t, instead of feeling that I could be honest and tell them, “I want to hang out with my friends another hour longer,” because I knew that wasn’t going to be okay.

After that whole incident, trust shifted to where I didn’t want to disappoint them. When I told them stuff, their reaction where they otherwise would have usually got upset or got mad at me and be like, “No. You can’t do that.” They were like, “Why did you feel like you wanted to do that?” I felt a lot closer to my parents. It was almost like I want to be back by 9:00 PM because I don’t want to disappoint my parents because I know that they trust me. I don’t want to lose that trust. It’s such a fine line balancing as a parent.

This is the story that my parents told me. You want your child to be able to call you when they’re in trouble because they know that you’re going to be there for them and you’re not going to scream at them or yell at them or tell them that they’re grounded. At 15 or 16 years old, if you’re at a high school party or you get drunk with your friends, are you going to take the chance to drive home or are you going to say, “No. I know that my mom might be disappointed, but I know that she’s going to be there for me and I can call her. I feel comfortable calling her to say, ‘I want you to pick me up,’” or if I’m uncomfortable in the situation that she’s not going to rip my head off.

We’ve had that conversation with our kids of saying, “We don’t care where you are. We’ll come to get you. We’ll have a conversation about it later on, but it won’t be at that moment. We want to bring you home safely.”

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Depression And Suicidal Ideation: If you want to be a good parent, you have to hug your kid and tell them you’re proud of them with no repercussion.

 

Having those types of conversations as a teenager, there’s a shift where you don’t want to defy your parents anymore. You don’t want to disappoint them because again, going to when my dad told me he was proud of me. When he tells me he’s proud of me on the baseball field, it makes me want to work that much harder because there’s nothing more than a child wants than the praise of his parents. When I got my parent’s praise, that was the best thing I could’ve ever asked for.

Somebody being angry with you does not have the same sting as somebody that says they’re disappointed in you. It hits on such a deeper level, disappointment versus just somebody angry and yelling at you. As we wrap things up here, two thoughts come to mind. One, if there are younger kids that may be reading this that are struggling, what would you recommend to them?

Don’t worry about fitting in. It’s better sometimes to stand out than fit in. There’s so much pressure nowadays to fit in and to stay up with the latest fashion. Second, you don’t need to have it all figured out. That was one of the things too. I compare myself to others, feeling that maybe somebody else had it more together than I did and that would get to me. I said, “What am I going to make in my life?” That was frustrating. One of the things that my dad told me was, “Don’t compare yourself to others. Focus on what you have right in front of you.” That’s the biggest thing for me is to know that you don’t have to have it figured out.

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People figure it out at 30, 40, 50. At sixteen years old, you need to learn. It sounds crazy enough, but we think that every decision has such a big impact at sixteen, but it doesn’t. Know that this too shall pass, TTSP and times of great healer if you’re going through something. My last point is to make sure that you love your parents because they’re trying to figure it out just as much as you are. They didn’t have a prior life before this where they could tweak their parenting skills and then come into this world and say, “I got it all figured out.” Whether or not we realize that, they’re trying to figure it out. There was this statistic that I saw that roughly 90% of your in-person time with your parents by the end of high school is over with. Value that time with your parents and know that they’re trying as hard as you are.

I’m going to ask you to imagine putting on your parenting hat for those that might be reading that have kids, that maybe are aware or not aware of this, what would you say to them?

Discipline only goes so far. By the time I was sixteen years old, I could block it out and my dad would get upset or yell at me. There are a bunch of different techniques and tactics. I’m not a parent, but there’s a podcast called The Knowledge Project. There’s an episode The Kids Are Worth It. I listened to that and I thought it was important, but the balance of trust is that the ability to have conversations and be vulnerable as a parent with your kids so that they’re vulnerable too. They’re not going to come to you and tell you all their problems openly. That’s not going to happen. Whether or not you think it is, it’s not. Be vulnerable and try to spend time with them. Tell them that you’re proud of them. That’s the biggest one.

The purpose of praise is to tell people what to do more of. Focus on those A’s and B’s and congratulate them for their efforts. Don’t be so hard on them because whether or not you know it, your praise and the words that you say as a parent sticks with a teenager. We’re growing up in different times, even as you mentioned too, for your oldest son and youngest son going through high school, even though it’s only eight years apart, they’re completely drastically different. To know as a parent, reflecting and using maybe the same techniques that your parents used to parent you not going to work.

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Sometimes you got to keep trying different solutions, but you can’t try the same thing over and over and expect different results. Know that there are different ways to talk to your kids. If you have 2 or 3 kids, they’re not coming off a factory line identical. They have different personalities and you can have an interaction with your oldest and it’s going to be different than your interaction with your youngest son or daughter, and knowing that they want and need different things because they’re not the same person.

Dylan, it’s been an honor and such a privilege to have you on this show to talk about such an important subject. I am looking forward to our follow-up from this, where we’ll talk specifically about your book too. Thank you so much.It’s been a pleasure being on the show. I appreciate it.

Take care.

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About Dylan Roberts

LFL 126 | Depression And Suicidal IdeationDylan is a 1/c cadet at the United States Coast Guard Academy studying Business & Management. His area of study is focused on leadership and financial management due to his desire to lead others and interest in the stock market, investment banking, and venture capital.

Dylan chose to attend the Coast Guard Academy because of his desire for a unique and structured college experience while also having the opportunity to serve his country upon graduation. The Coast Guard Academy’s management program is accredited by the internationally recognized Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB). Dylan would like to pursue an MBA and someday get his CFA certification.

Dylan is currently serving as the President of both the Investment Committee and Financial Club. They actively manage a portfolio through Goldman Sachs on behalf of the CGA Alumni Association. In addition, they collaborate with Navy Federal Credit Union and First Command to create financial opportunities for the Corps of Cadets.

Dylan trades short-term positions in stocks and options using both technical and fundamental analysis. His goal is to read at least one book per week. The topics he read consist of investing, leadership, Stoicism and Buddhist philosophy, psychology, behavior studies, and business.

Dylan currently holds a Secret Security Clearance.

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